Physical Abduction & Missing 411
Details on physical abduction have already been covered in the article on Missing 411, with additional references in the earlier parts of this series. Some of the reasons and criteria for permanent physical abduction have included:
for the purpose of experimentation, as in the case of D.W. and C.S. (1994-10-20)
knowing too much as a result of researching related phenomena, as in the case of “the barfly,” who was spying on T. and reading his “aural frequency,” and T. would have been abducted if he hadn’t been as strong (1995-10-14)
as a result of revealing certain disturbing details to the public about child abductions and human mutilations (1994-7-16, though in that instance, they didn’t specify that the abduction would be permanent)
The following transcripts focus on the methods involved:
June 17, 1995 (direct channeling via Frank)
A: Most often, if the third-density being is removed in total physicality, there is no return of that being to third density. They are permanently removed to fourth density. Most often that is what takes place although on rare occasions there can be return. However, there is no need for this as complete duplication for all purposes of examination, alteration of sensate, and implanting need not be done on third density can be done completely in the fourth-density duplication process [described further below].
September 9, 1995
A: [When a] so-called abduction takes place, especially if it is a physical abduction, the subject becomes temporarily 4th density, because it is the environment that counts. And the key factor there is awareness, not physical or material structure.
January 7, 1996
A: 3rd-density abduction only occurs rarely, and is of great import.
In the examples where numbers for different participants were given in other sessions, the percentages of physical abductions were 23% (3/13), 25% (1/4), and possibly 15% (9/59), but these may not be representative. Missing 411 cases do not strictly speaking fall into this category and are more likely to be “one-shot” events. The following question makes a wrong assumption that the two are identical:
May 18, 2024
Q: (L) I don’t know if [physical abduction] was necessarily that the 3D body was removed to 4D via TDARM [transdimensional atomic remolecularization]. […] Are you sure about that distinction? (Approaching Infinity) Well, in the Missing 411 cases, which by context seem to be considered permanent [physical] abductions, there’s been talk of the remolecularization process [“TDARM-type tech” used in connection with berries as a locator] and crossing dimensional boundaries. So, I’m making an assumption […] (L) OK, let’s ask. He says […] physical abduction [is] where the 3D body gets removed to 4D by a TDARM. Is that what happens?
A: No.
Q: (L) What happens?
A: 3D body taken to 4D.
Q: (L) And no TDARM involved. Is that it?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So no TDARM is involved in that third type of abduction, but they do use technology to remove people. I mean they open portals, pull ’em through a portal, so to speak, something like that?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And they have like tractor beams and stuff?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) But they don’t have to disassemble ’em?
A: No.
July 6, 2024
Q: (Approaching Infinity) In 2015, in the context of Missing 411 cases, you said that berries were “convenient markers for TDARM-type technology due to sound frequency.” In the last session, however, you said TDARM tech wasn’t used in physical abductions. Since Missing 411 involve the permanent physical removal of the victim, what is the “TDARM-type tech” used in these cases and for what purpose? (L) […] OK, wait a minute, now... There’s something else here. You said TDARM tech wasn’t used in physical abductions.
A: Physical abductions are not necessarily the same as 411 cases. Physical abductions were discussed in the context of “alien abductions.” 411-type cases are often done for different reasons. There is a certain element of opportunism present in the latter. In the former, there is usually a specific targeting and a purpose.
Q: (L) OK. So, in alien abductions, they usually target somebody and the various elements of an alien abduction come into play where the person is compelled to do something or feels something or whatever, and they are taken, I guess. In the 411 cases... (Andromeda) And usually returned. (L) Well, we’re talking about the ones where they’re actually physically abducted and not returned. (Andromeda) Right. OK. (L) And in the 411 cases there’s opportunism. (Chu) Like all the people running in a specific place or... (Scottie) Yeah, the people who go off into the wilderness are making themselves targets. (L) OK. Does that have anything to do with, I mean the opportunistic nature of it has something to do with the whole berry bush element... (Andromeda) Or certain other themes like being near water or in certain places or of a certain disability... (Niall) Or certain genetic heritage. (Andromeda) Yeah. One time it was athletic people, or Germans, or... (L) And so those elements relate to the technological aspect of it, is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Whereas none of those things need to be present for a strictly targeted alien abduction. Is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So then he wants to know: What is the TDARM-type tech used in these cases?
A: Do you have a week or so? And the ability to evade abduction yourself?
Q: (L) In other words, don’t ask that question. (L) If we said we had a week or so, would you tell us?
A: No.
Q: […] (L) Is a TDARM-type tech—can it be used to demolecularize a living human body and remove it?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And is that why they have such odd leavings at some of the sites, because the body has been kind of demolecularized out of its clothes or something?
A: Yes.
Additionally, the victim of physical abduction can be taken alive or dead (1995-10-21; and technically Travis Walton, 2023-6-24), and either kept permanently or returned (again, alive or dead). Fetus removal probably also counts as a permanent physical abduction. Several means exist by which a 3D body can be taken to 4D. One may be taken directly through a dimensional portal, “tractor-beamed” onto a craft, or even perhaps physically carried or otherwise transported into a 4D base or craft.
Close encounters are often associated with a temporary translation of a physical area into 4D, the features of which include preternatural quiet, electromagnetic anomalies (e.g. engines dying), and altered states of consciousness. UK ufologist Jenny Randles called this the “Oz Factor” (quoted by Fowler in Watchers II):
The “Oz Factor” is a set of symptoms very commonly reported by a witness to an abduction…time standing still…all sound vanishing…the impression of temporarily having left our material world and entered another dream-like place with magical rules, just as it did to Dorothy in the famous fantasy store The Wizard of Oz.
March 9, 2024
Q: (Altair) Why do people often report the ceasing of all sounds from the environment when a UFO passes closely? It’s like UFOs carry a zone of silence with them.
A: They carry a zone of 4D with them.
Recall that the Linda Cortile abduction allegedly occurred in 4D. The brightly lit UFO that hovered outside her apartment building presumably carried with it a “zone of 4D” which encompassed the surrounding area of Manhattan, from where passersby could observe her body being taken up into the UFO via a bright bluish-white beam of light. This is how David Jacobs describes it in Walking Among Us:
A light source from a waiting UFO transports passive abductees through closed windows, walls, and ceilings into the UFO. They are [usually?] rendered invisible during these passages. Sometimes the aliens err and fail to “switch off” bystanders, who then witness the spectacle, although this is the exception to the rule.
Some witnesses, such as Terry Lovelace, report observing Grays walking into such a light beam and “dissolving.” Lovelace also quotes abductee Erin Montgomery’s sensation of passing through her ceiling: “It was like my atoms were slipping between the atoms of the wood and other building materials as we ascended.” Denise Stoner, in her book with Kathleen Marden, recalls being told to step into the blue light during one abduction experience: “I feel as if I will be ripped apart, my cells separating. I move upward toward an opening that seems to be floating in the air. I can’t possibly fit inside this opening. […] Within seconds, I feel myself being sucked into the opening, and all at once, find that I am now again whole.” It’s unclear whether these events simply represent a passage into 4D via a light “tractor beam,” or the TDARM process used for “etheric” abduction.
Consciousness Abduction
November 19, 1994
In this session, the Cassiopaeans said T. had been abducted 27 times in childhood, but that the only abductions since he became an adult were “in level 3” – 196 times, roughly 8 times as many. When asked what level 3 was, they replied:
A: Consciousness altered to “alpha” state.
Q: (T) Does this mean screen memories?
A: Close.
Q: (T) In other words I will be seeing something other than what is actually happening? Or remembering something other than what actually happened?
A: Yes, but not physical as in childhood. […]
Q: (T) Is this when I am asleep that they induce this alpha state?
A: Sometimes.
Alpha waves primarily occur in two states: during “wakeful relaxation” (most often with eyes closed) and during REM sleep. In The NASA Conspiracies, Nick Redfern cites an abduction that, judging from his time references, probably occurred during the early 1990s. The subject, Sharon, was 18 years old at the time:
She recalled to me how, on one particular night, when she assumed she was on board the huge, undersea spaceship, Sharon was awakened from the experience by Douglas [her boyfriend], who told the completely disoriented Sharon that she had been thrashing about in their bed for at least 15 minutes.
Sharon now began to seriously wonder if all of her experiences had actually followed this very same path. What if, in all those years of apparent alien encounters, she had always been in her bed, in some weird sleep state? Did this mean that the Grays were the product of her own mind and had no actual flesh-and-blood reality? […] Or, were the Grays actually not the denizens of outer space, but of a dream-like reality that allowed them to interact with us when we, too, were in a similar dream state?
Sharon, who worked as a secretary for NASA, shared some of her experiences at work. A female colleague questioned her about this: “The woman then proceeded to tell Sharon that there were certain people in NASA, and the government as a whole, who knew that the alien abduction phenomenon was not all that it initially appeared to be, and that the ‘control of souls’ was believed by NASA to be a central pat of the abduction experience.”
Q: (V) Has it ever happened when he’s in front of his computer?
A: At work.
Q: (T) At work for Honeywell?
A: Inside large white building. […] US government.
Q: (T) Yes they are. They are a government contractor. Has it happened since I worked at my new job?
A: No.
Q: (T) Is it because I am no longer working for a government facility?
A: Partly.
Q: (T) What would the other part be?
A: You have recently had consciousness-raising experience.
Q: (L) And this consciousness raising experience has made it more difficult for them to play with his head?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) What was the consciousness-raising experience?
A: Soul-searching period.
December 31, 1994
These following answers were strange, given that similar questions were answered on other occasions.
Q: (T) How many [of D.’s abductions] were physical?
A: Not correct thinking pattern.
Q: (L) In a sense they are all physical? How many of these abductions were virtual reality abductions?
A: Everything is that. […]
Q: (T) How many were alpha state abductions?
A: Two weeks ago felt “tingle.”
Many abductees report such sensations before the onset of an abduction. For example, Ed, an abductee studied by John Mack in Abduction (1994), recalled feeling “some tingling” at the base of his skull while drifting off into a state he wasn’t sure was dream or reality. Druffel writes: “Growing evidence exists […] substantiating the theory that the initial materialization of intrusive entities is accomplished while the witness is in a light altered state, such as the slight trance a person experiences while driving, watching television, or awakening from sleep.” This raises the question of whether or not consciousness abductions typically precede other types of abductions.
May 18, 2024
Q: (Approaching Infinity) Why is alpha-state induction considered an abduction, which implies some part of us is taken? […]
A: Abduction there refers to consciousness.
Q: (L) So they’re just taking your consciousness, is that it?
A: Yes.
One of the participants seems to have referred to this type of abduction as “telepathic contact and triggering,” suggesting that consciousness abduction represents a type of covert “contact” and manipulation. What seems to occur here is that, similar to how the etheric body can be removed, manipulated, and “reinserted,” one’s consciousness may be “removed,” altered with extrinsic content, and then “put back.” Perhaps this is interpreted as telepathy (not associated with typical abductions), “downloads,” or sudden “knowings”—so-called close encounters of the fifth kind (protocols for which are promoted by several individuals, including Dr. Steven M. Greer).
In Taken, Karla Turner provides several examples of what she calls “remote telepathic communication” with abductees. As she writes, “some interactions occur on a mental rather than a physical level.” She describes “virtual-reality” dreams – intrusive events that suddenly interrupt normal dreams.
The experiencer is aware of a total, abrupt change in consciousness and finds himself in an event altogether different from his dream. What follows may be a perceived event, with action, location, and personnel, or it may be a communication of even a vision.
In addition to the abductions and virtual-reality scenarios [which the C’s call “etheric” abductions], abductees also report telepathic contacts from entities who are not physically or perceivably present. These contacts include messages about spiritual matters, warnings of future disasters, “teaching” sessions, displays of symbols, and information on mathematics, physics, religion, politics, and the nature of the human species.
“Polly” described this “internal communications” like this: “They [i.e. “multidimensionals” or aliens] so often enter or I enter them in a sense.” “Anita” described asking questions telepathically, then lying down on a sofa “to drift into twilight sleep, which is really just a deep state of relaxation. I was not asleep or awake. Then the answers to my questions would come.” “Amy” felt the aliens had “implanted or stored information within the subconscious, in ‘packets’ of knowledge, reminiscent of the ‘pockets’ of knowledge the aliens told me [Turner] I possessed in 1980.”
Back in 1948, Vincent H. Gaddis wrote an article for the Meade Layne’s Round Robin newsletter titled “He Predicted the ‘Saucers’,” about Loren Gee, “a businessman and semi-professional performer of mentalism.” In October 1946 Gee predicted: “During the summer months (1947) there will be considerable excitement and speculation concerning mysterious objects to he seen in the sky by hundreds of persons in various States. The true nature of the objects will not be made known to the public until several years afterward.” The famous UFO wave of June/July 1947 followed. Gaddis reached out to Gee and wrote:
Mr. Gee states that he receives his impressions in a relaxed, almost dream-like state, but not a trance state. The messages come in “flashes,” usually at unexpected moments, and the revelations are entirely foreign to whatever he may be thinking of at the moment. They cannot be received at will and the phenomenon is beyond the control of the will. In other words, he cannot make a specific prophecy about a specific event, and making up a set of predictions requires much time. Nevertheless, when the contact is established, Mr. Gee can ask questions and receive definite replies. He discovered his ability at an early age, and it increased as he grew older.
Reanimation, Duplication & Robotoids
The Cassiopaeans described several variations on reanimation utilizing TDARM technology in the discussion of MIA’s and KIA’s “recruited” off the battleground (see the series on Undergrounders). Prior to that, however, they made this reference to cloning:
November 6, 1994
Q: (L) When they sample an abductee’s tissue and take the little scoops or chunks out of them, what do they take these chunks of flesh for?
A: Cloning.
Q: (L) If they clone, why do they need such a large chunks?
A: You don’t know all details of cloning process yet.
In Thieves in the Night, Joshua Cutchin traces the idea of cloning in abduction research to one of Budd Hopkins’s earliest subjects, Virginia Horton, who “claimed she was ‘introduced in the sky house to my sister, who looked exactly like me. She was a clone.’” A Brazilian case some years later in 1986 also featured “an impeccable duplicate” left in the abductee’s stead during his absence.
Extraterrestrials told several of Karla Turner’s adult subjects they could be “replaced” by indistinguishable clones if they resisted their abductions. “Similar reports come from other abductees,” she wrote. “In one case a man said he saw a room full of inert male and female human bodies, who were beautiful and identical.” In 2017 Bret Oldham wrote, “I have seen what appeared to be human clones; each one looked like an exact copy of the others. They were white males with an average build and short dark hair.”
Cutchin also cites the case of Ted Rice, detailed in Turner’s Masquerade of Angels:
Rice recalled [under hypnosis] an overcast, cloudy day from his childhood when a bright light in the sky swallowed him up. Inside a strange room, two Greys stripped him naked and forced him to drink a strange liquid, which somehow separated his soul from his body. His soul was then transferred to an identical body.
Cutchin leaves out the more disturbing aspects of this recollection. Viewing his lifeless body, the 8-year-old Rice saw a “cloudy and formless” mass rise from his body and take on his image, which the alien-woman then placed in a black, rectangular box. He then observed the woman severing his head from the corpse using a light beam and draining its blood into a vat. An identical body was then taken out of a container and the black box used to bring it to life. In a later scene he observed a Nordic addressing an auditorium of creatures; it explained “that these children were the beginnings of products of future generations on earth.” After this experience, young Ted was “sick for a long time,” including with some childhood diseases he had already had previously. His personality also became withdrawn and quiet.
Turner’s subjects in Taken included “Pat,” who recalled seeing live but inanimate bodies in “sarcophagus-like boxes.” She said of one female body, “I felt like this cocoon was the new me. I felt that they are waiting for the resurrection or reanimation, and we will all be able to see and talk with them here on earth.” “Lisa” similarly saw her “new body,” describing it as “perfect.” Like Rice, she “felt as if she had actually died in order to get into the new body.” (“Maarit,” in Eve Lorgen’s Dark Side of Cupid, similarly believes she was killed “in a ritualized fashion” before being put in a cloned body.) “Angie” was shown “a nursery of ‘clones.’” Another time she was shown cloned infants and hybrids and told they would be used “to prepare” humans for “spiritual transformation.” Another man saw “a room full of inert male and female human bodies, who were beautiful and identical.”
Dr. Helmut Lammer and Marion Lammer also summarized several such reports in MILABs: Military Mind Control and Alien Abduction (1999), writing:
Interestingly, alleged alien and MILAB abductees both describe seeing small tubes or incubators inside UFOs, as well as inside terrestrial underground research facilities. […] Some alleged alien abductees report that they have seen small alien-like beings as well as adult humans in a state of suspended animation inside tube-like incubators. Some of these abductees claim that the humans looked altered, like hybrids.
The Lammers cite abductees Christa Tilton, Jim Sparks, and Katharina Wilson, who “saw two women during a MILAB abduction in 1993, who she believes were clones of herself.” Another abductee told Wilson that he had seen what looked like human clones “all sleeping inside some kind of rectangular containers that were lined up in rows” inside an underground facility.
October 14, 1995
Q: (L) Now, in the Matrix material, there’s a section extracted from the L. Ron Hubbard teachings that talks about technical abilities to jerk people’s souls out of their bodies, insert other souls, reprogram the memories, essentially that there is no congruency…
A: False. […] Some [MIA/KIA’s] are body-duplicate soul-receptacle replacements […] for dead bodies, i.e. duplicated.
Q: (L) So, in other words, they make replacements for dead people and put their souls in a replacement body, so that they can continue living on, is that it?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Do they ever use dead bodies and reanimate them and then put other souls in them?
A: No. […] For example: a soldier is KIA, his body is duplicated, his soul is replaced into new body, then he is “reprogrammed for service” to aliens and S.G. [secret government].
During one of her abductions, Turner’s subject “Angie” was taken to an underground base where she was told that the “blond humanoid” types (i.e. Nordics) were the ones in charge. When she asked about all the military people there, the Nordic told her, “We control them,” and then smiled.
Q: […] (L) Where do they get the material for the duplicate? I know that’s a dumb question, I know the answer.
A: TDARM [transdimensional atomic remolecularization].
Q: […] (TK) Does somebody have to die in a certain way before they can do this?
A: No. [See the short discussion on cloning in part 5.]
A: (TK) Is there a time limit on how long they can be dead?
A: No.
Q: (T) Well, because when your physical body dies, your soul body continues on. Your soul doesn’t die, so they always have it. (L) They don’t want to take your body out of the graveyard, because they’re not concerned about the body.
A: Zero time.
Q: […] (L) They use the frequency vibration of the soul pattern, they take it into another density, use their TDARM technology to cause a molecular re-assembly; in other words, the atoms begin to whir and assemble around it in the pattern that it had before, and then it is a full-fledged body, and then they insert it back through the time doorway into 3D again. Is that correct?
A: Close. […]
Q: (L) There were actually [KIA] bodies that were actually reanimated, is that correct?
A: Some, but most were duplicated.
Q: (L) Were some of these bodies taken, like dead bodies of somebody who just died… were the bodies picked up, taken into another density for this remolecularization patterning?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) OK, so they had to have an actual body for the pattern. […] (TK) Did they actually get the bodies before anybody actually… (T) Before they were recovered, yes. Were the original bodies returned once the duplication was done?
A: More than one type of situation.
Q: (L) So, in other words, it could be sometimes, yeah, they were, and sometimes, no, they weren’t. (J) It would be case by case. (T) Were some of these supposed “killed in actions” actually not killed? Were they still alive when they were removed?
A: All possibilities. […]
Q: (L) Last week we asked about this thing about the death, and we were told that there was an impenetrable triple veil that prevents some of this “L.Ron Hubbard” type of activity that he describes happening [i.e. the ability to jerk people’s souls out of their bodies, insert other souls, reprogram the memories]. How can this be reconciled? Well, the explanation that I see is that it happens that they do this before they go into the tunnel, into the light. They catch them in the transition before they go to 5D. Is that correct?
A: Time adjustment.
Q: (L) Does that mean that they know that they’re going to, and they go back in just before they die, or just at the moment of death, or…?
A: Close.
March 9, 2024
Q: (Jones) The work in transmarginal inhibition, where an individual is flooded with stimuli that represents overwhelming threat, suggests that all previous conditioning can be undone. Deb Dana says that it is a superpower to have a nervous system that is highly sympathetically energized, but to also be able to maintain some ventral vagal connection or energy – sociality, curiosity, compassion, etc. Lobaczweski says that maintaining an attitude of a naturalist studying a subject is protective when exposed to psychopaths. Victor Frankl basically says that having a meaning or reason for surviving overwhelmingly harsh experiences is protective. Were those that were selected for abduction and “reanimation” from the wars those who went into dorsal vagal shutdown?
A: Yes.
October 21, 1995
Q: (L) Do they ever pick up dead bodies, you know, right after, and reanimate them?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) When they pick them up and reanimate them, do they reanimate them with the souls that left them? Do they like, catch the soul and put it back in?
A: No. [This seems to contradict what was said above: “his body is duplicated, his soul is replaced into new body.” Perhaps the concept of “catching” the soul is incorrect.]
Q: (L) When they reanimate them, do they reanimate them with an alien soul?
A: Multiple possibilities. [The previous session suggests that reanimating with an alien soul is not one of them, since they said they do not ever “put other souls in” the reanimated bodies. Though this may not preclude a voluntary “walk-in.”]
Q: (L) If they reanimate them, is it possible to reanimate them with no soul?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) OK, when they reanimate them with no soul, do they have kind of like a zombie-like situation?
A: No.
Q: (L) Well, could you give us a little more information on this particular aspect? If they reanimate them with no soul, what is the animating force or energy?
A: Indistinguishable from other humans.
Q: […] (LM) How is that possible?
A: Technology makes all things possible!!!
Q: (L) Of course, you are talking about 4th-density technology?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Now, a reanimated corpse that has been animated by infusion of some form of an energy pattern… (SV) Is it “chi” energy, maybe? (L) What if the reanimated corpse dies again, I mean, you have got to understand here that we perceive the soul as being the animating force of the physical body, and when the soul is gone, the body dies. Is that correct?
A: You are making assumptions based on limited data.
Q: (L) OK, well, will you expand my database by telling me how a corpse can be reanimated […] if not with a soul?
A: Complex technology, using electronic bio-generation frequency matching, combined with extremely-high-frequency radio beacon transmitters for tracking and control of all functions, including thought-pattern mimic and emotional-frequency vibrational-rate modulation!!!! [Recall that Ra had said one variation on alien programming was the creation of lifeless “beacons.”]
Q: (L) If they’re doing this, does it make the physical body…
A: Yes.
Q: (L) The blood, the heartbeat and everything…
A: All functions, including cellular, duplicated.
Q: (SV) What about the aura? (L) Would a being such as this still have an aura?
A: Projected.
Q: (L) OK, that would be projected, along with all of the frequencies, and everything else. (SV) Are there a lot of dead people walking around?
A: This is method used for subjects discussed in “Matrix Material” instead of “robots”, as suggested.
Q: (L) Is there any way that a normal person would be able to identify such a being?
A: No.
Q: (L) Approximately how many of this type of being are walking around on our planet, acting like normal people?
A: 2,000,000. […] You, Laura, have come in contact with 7 of them!
Q: (L) Who are they?
A: Discover. […]
Q: (L) Are you going to tell me anything about it at all? If there is any question I could ask to get any information concerning this, consider it asked.
A: Who is nutritionist?
Q: […] (L) Do you mean Susan S.?
A: Yes.
Q: (LM) I find that hard to believe. (F) Is Susan S. a robot? (LM) When did she die?
A: Open. All it takes is a “hospital visit.” [L.’s note: To my knowledge, Susan S. has been hospitalized for surgery at least twice.]
Q: […] (L) Does this mean if one goes into a hospital for surgery, that it’s possible for them to die and be reanimated in this manner? Without anybody being aware of what happened?
A: Yes.
Q: […] (L) So, you’re saying that Susan S. was one of these robotoids, is that what you’re saying?
A: We gave you one for your own knowledge and protection, but cannot give you others at this juncture.
Q: (L) Is it up to me to figure out what characteristics these individuals have, in order to…
A: Based upon data given, yes.
Q: (L) OK, is one of the – I mean, I’m clicking [through mental data files] right now – one of the characteristics I think, that these kind of individuals might have, since they have this projected emotional frequency, would be a repeating emotional pattern, that they just simply, in spite of seeming intelligence, do not seem to learn from anything; that it just repeats over and over again. Is that a clue?
A: Yes.
Q: (SV) Wait a minute, was that her idea, that we should eat like the monkeys do? (L) Yes. (SV) And then you’ve read about… saw the Jane Goodall film that talked about the fact that monkeys like to eat… (L) Other monkeys, yes. (SV) And what did she say when you told her about that? (L) She said, “Well, I’ll just say,” and she changed the entire paragraph to read that in the wild, primates eat primarily vegetation with some amounts of protein, and no specification as to where the protein came from. That’s really stretching it. (SV) She should have just left it out. (LM) That doesn’t make any sense. (L) Now, there are some strange things about her, I’ll have to admit that. OK, then, this same inability to get a clue about what’s going on… OK, that’s a clue, right there. Is there any kind of instinctual sensation that one would get about these types of individuals?
A: Bland.
Q: (L) That they’re bland in some way? Is that it, that these individuals are bland individuals?
A: Spend inordinate amounts of “time” in solitude. […] Bland is not universal in this situation, just a clue for you to identify individual. […] Not key component, more likely to be spreading of disinformation.
Q: […] (L) Do these beings know what they are?
A: Not conscious beings!
Q: (L) They’re not conscious beings, so, they just react to you as though they are being remote controlled. […]
A: Are being remote controlled.
Q: (L) OK, do we have any more questions on this subject? (SV) So, if you told one of them what they were, they’d agree with you? (L) No, they’d probably disagree with you. (SV) Yes, being remote controlled… (L) Whoever is in charge would not want you to know it, so they’d naturally deny it vehemently. (SV) Then they’d probably come and get you… (L) Yes, no doubt about that. Now, what is the purpose of putting 2 million of these kind of critters on the planet? Can you give us a clue?
A: Wait and see.
To summarize, several variations on this process exist. A body duplication may happen when the subject is alive or dead. If the victim is dead, the original body may be reanimated or duplicated. In the latter case, the original corpse may be returned or not. Finally, the duplicated body may be either re-ensouled or not (i.e. “robotized”).
The referenced material included in Val Valerian’s Matrix II on “organic robotoids” is sourced from Peter Beter, J.D.’s conspiracy audio-tape letters recorded in 1979. In them, Beter claims that numerous world leaders and politicians at the time had been replaced by such robotoids, which had been created by the Russians.
An organic robotoid is an artificial robot-like creature, it looks and acts exactly like a human being and yet it is not human. A robotoid is alive in a biological sense but it is an artificial life form. Robotoids respond to conventional routine medical tests in the same way as humans do; they eat they drink, they breathe, they bleed if cut; and they can be killed. Robotoids can also think, but they think only in the sense that a computer thinks. Like any other computer, the brain of a robotoid has to be programmed for each assignment it is given; but unlike many electronic computers, the biological robotoid possesses an enormous memory. As a result, robotoids can be programmed to communicate and think in such complex patterns that they act human.
Beter, who didn’t provide any explanation for how he knew such things, claimed that these robotoids are not clones per se; they “simulate a human donor at his current age.” He claimed Jimmy Carter and his entire family were robotoids (the president cycling through at least 18 versions), as well as Vice President Mondale, Secretary of State Blumenthal, Secretary of Defense Brown, Secretary of Energy Schlesinger, and Walter Cronkite, among others. Robotoids were allegedly reprogrammed at the Russian embassy “for each assignment.”
On October 7, 1995, the C’s said: “remember, Matrix material, like all others, contains confused concepts at some points.” Later they said that Valerian was a doorway for both information and disinformation (2000-7-15), Beter’s contribution falling squarely in the category of the latter.
April 28, 1996
Q: (L) When a person becomes a robot person, what happens to the soul of the robot person?
A: Same process. […] Death.
Q: (L) So, a person can die and leave their body, their body can be taken over and reanimated and controlled to function and do a lot of things for a long time. Meanwhile, the original soul has completely departed to 5th density ready to recycle?
A: Yes, but body is replaced, not reanimated.
The C’s later gave another example in addition to Susan S.:
November 29, 2001
Q: (L) What is wrong with Vincent? What is driving him?
A: He is a robotoid.
Q: (L) Who did his programming?
A: 4th-density STS.
Q: (L) Doesn’t that contradict him having his free will?
A: No. Even robots have minimal consciousness.
Q: (L) So, all his whining and all his “poor pitiful me” stuff is just a program?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) That explains, I guess, why he doesn’t seem to learn from anything. Even a dog would have figured it out by now.
A: Yes.
Q: (A) Whine on no matter what! (L) That means that there is no hope of anything stopping his vicious, mindless lies and attacks. He will go on and on like a robot, right to his own destruction? (A) Yes, there is a hope of stopping him. (L) Yeah, when his circuits burn out. (A) No, no, no. You have a robot; it is working; robots work on a current. When it is working, it gets energy. If the program no longer works, the energy is stopped, then he must look for some other energy source. So, if nobody feeds him, sooner or later another program will switch on that says “look for new energy source.” But looking for a new energy source implies being hungry for the period until you find another. So, its not so easy to switch that program. (L) Is there any trick to divert the intention of the robot?
A: Give it a little time. […]
Q: Well, I would ask about the current situation, but then Vincent Bridges will go on another rant….
A: He is a robot.
Q: So, he says only what he is programmed to say and does only what he is programmed to do?
A: Yes.
Q: What is the purpose of his program? What is it designed to do?
A: Break your will to continue.
Q: Was this always his plan, or did something change when he was here in July? Did we select a different universe at that point? Or did he refuse to move out of the one he was in and merge with ours?
A: It was always the plan to either co-opt you for the use of dark forces, or destroy your work and will.
February 23, 2002
Q: (R) [My question] relates to this girl I was communicating on the net. I was just wondering if she was just doing all of that [crazy manipulating] on her own or if she was just being helped.
A: FRV [frequency resonance vibration] robot. You will encounter many more in times to come.
September 14, 2002
Q: (L) Are there other types of soulless beings more than those reanimated or remolecularized dead dudes and OP’s? Are there such things as holographic-projection beings running around on the planet at this point and time?
A: In a sense, you are all “holographic” projections. But to answer the question, it is rare.
August 14, 2016
Q: (Galatea) They once said that there were 2 million reanimated people living on Earth. So I was wondering if there are more nowadays?
A: Yes.
Q: (Galatea) How many?
A: Not significantly more.
Probably related are the 2 to 2.5 million “undergrounders” who operate on the surface at any given moment (which include “reanimated” MIA/KIAs).
May 18, 2024
Q: (Approaching Infinity) In past sessions, you have said there are 6 types of abduction, but only 3 have been discussed in any real detail. First, there is alpha state induction, aka “level 3” abduction – remote manipulation while conscious or dreaming. Second is the soul duplication or “virtual reality” abduction – soul imprint is extracted via TDARM, body copied in 4D, then soul reinserted into 3D body. And third is physical abduction, where the 3D body gets removed to 4D […] A couple other possible variations are mentioned in the sessions, mostly based on the MIA/KIA discussion. First there is reanimation, where the soul is picked up prior to going to 5D and reinserted into the reanimated body. Second is body duplication/cloning, which resembles reanimation, except a new, replacement body is created. And the third might be a strictly 3D abduction, for example, where the physical body enters a 4D area without TDARM, like when one enters or is taken to an underground base. Are these accurate?
A: Close enough!
With all this talk about souls... I read in the Nag Hammadi Library that the archons (lizards, grays) are "soul stealers".
I also read in the Corrado Malanga material (Italian scientist/physicist who took on the study of abductions) that when a person is not integrated with their own self, that is, their mind, soul, spirit and body, then they are easy to be abducted by the aliens and they also take the soul, a whole lot! And when he was talking to the soul through hypnosis, because he could talk to each individually, the soul, or the mind, or the spirit, and when he was talking to the soul, he would ask the soul to burn out the implants in the body, and it did, it zapped them out. He also asked the soul to burn out those alien presences, and sometimes it would whereas other times it wouldn't because it thought that they were a real being and it didn't want to murder them. Lol.
And then, I heard some of Jessica Arael Marrocco's sessions on her YouTube channel, that these aliens stole little children's souls in order to use them as energy to run their spaceship. I also heard this said elsewhere, I just don't remember exactly where though.
So, in here, from Nov. 26, 1994:
"A: DNA core is as yet undiscovered enzyme relating to carbon. Light waves were used to cancel the first ten factors of DNA by burning them off. At that point, a number of physical changes took place including knot at top of spine. Each of these is equally reflected in the ethereal."
I would like to know, if the Cassiopaeans can help us to understand something....I would like to know if this "Light" of those "Light waves" that they used, were from other beings' stolen soul energy? Are they using souls who were stolen and imprisoned in their technology, to burn off the DNA in a whole planet's bodily systems?
Edit: Ok, I remember now. It was in one of Jessica Arael Marrocco's Peter the Insider Disclosure videos. He works for the ACIO, and he said, a few months ago, or last year, that he and a few super soldiers had seen a huge wormhole that the cabal were working on, and they wanted to stabilize it so that it was able to bring through large space ships. But he said they didn't have enough souls yet in order to do that, therefore it was very unstable and unable to be used as yet. In other words, they are stealing souls from Human's bodies, while they're in bed sleeping, etc, so that they can use/misuse them to pack them into this wormhole for their purposes only! Sickening!
Based on the details described in this post, I suspect that the odds that Nancy Pelosi could be a Robotoid are very high...
"In a rare bit of honesty, Pelosi boasts that she’s ‘reptilian’ and ‘cold blooded’"
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2024/08/24/in-a-rare-bit-of-honesty-pelosi-boasts-that-shes-reptilian-and-cold-blooded-1482230/