
Reptilians (aka reptoids, lizard people/beings, “lizzies”) first entered the mainstream UFO literature in the early 1990s. The first book-length publication mentioning them seems to have been Valdamar Valerian’s Matrix II (1990), which contains a 2-page section on Reptilians and Grays (ostensibly written by Valerian, whose real name is John Grace) and a 10-page section by Jason Bishop III entitled “Reptilian – Grey Data: The Pasturing and Use of Surface Earth Humans.” In the few years prior to that, they seem only to have been discussed among the more conspiratorial researchers and described in privately circulated reports and newsletters. (Notably, the 1983 TV miniseries V had depicted aliens as reptilians in human disguises.)
According to Grace, “Often the Reptilians seem to be present during abductions as observers only, standing off to the side of the action, just watching.” This was the case during Ron and Paula Watson’s 1983 CE-3 on their farm, described in Linda Moulton Howe’s Glimpses of Other Realities (1993). Alongside a landed flying saucer, they observed two Grays “floating” a paralyzed cow, a Bigfoot-type creature to one side of the craft, and to the other, “a tall, green-skinned ‘lizard man’ who glared with eyes slit by vertical pupils.” (The C’s identified Bigfoot types as “slaves and pets” of Reptilians. In 1987, Bullard wrote: “Once in a while the beings [i.e. abductors] controlled or associated with ape-like humanoids resembling a bigfoot […] though these beings seemed useful for work rather than as pets.”)
Based on his “conversations” with Grays (seemingly either during abductions, via channeling, or both), Grace describes Reptilians as malevolent and living underground and in space. Some “eat us like we eat chicken”: “Children are preferred because they are generally unpoisoned by substances like caffeine, nicotine, alcohol and other things adults are saturated with, as a group.” Hybridizing, he was told, is not “for racial survival” but to create a “subclass” within their own culture (perhaps akin to what Ra describes as enslavement and assimilation into the STS hierarchy).
Bishop’s contribution echoes Grace’s and is more detailed – perhaps more fanciful – obviously drawing on prior channeled material such as the Law of One (evident from his references to the “Orion Group” empire or “Confederation,” “Maldek” and the “Harvest”). According to Bishop, the Reptilians are divided into at least three classes or castes: the “Draco” leadership (winged beings also known as the “Dragon Race,” whose symbol is the winged serpent), and wingless soldiers and scientists.

Barbara Marciniak channeled material from “Pleiadians” beginning in 1988 that was eventually published as Bringers of the Dawn in 1992, which briefly describes an alien race of “creator gods” who are “part human and part reptilian”:
The Lizzies have set Earth up with devices that can broadcast and magnify the emotional turmoil on this planet. That turmoil is sent to them, and it sustains them in some way. […] One of the huge portals that presently is being fought over is the portal of the Middle East. […] This is the portal that the Lizzies use. […] This is a portal that involves manipulation of the human population to serve the needs of others.
Outside the UFO field, reports of “lizard men” go back decades earlier (and into ancient history, as we’ll see in a future part of this series). As early as 1961, channeler Joy D’Light claimed to have encountered a species of herbivorous Reptilians. Brad Steiger’s The UFO Abductors (1988) includes an account told to him in 1969 by Gloria W., then a sophomore college student. During a camping trip, she encountered two “smallish” reptilian or amphibian humanoids, one of whom transformed into “the most beautiful man that she had ever seen.” As he embraced her, she became intensely aroused and had intercourse with the being, later claiming her son was the product of this union. This sexual element is pervasive in reports of such encounters, as we will see below.
In 1978, an elk hunter was on his way back to Dubois, Wyoming, when he pulled over to assist a disheveled and terrified man on the road. This man, also a hunter, told him what he had just seen in the woods: a 6.5-foot-tall, golden/bronze-colored lizard. It had cat-like eyes and a tail and was holding a black object in its clawed hand. Alerted to the man’s presence, the creature very quickly raised the arm holding the object: “Something hit my whole body from my feet to my head and I fell back on the ground.” It then walked toward him and “just looked down to me, its mouth slightly open making a low hissing sound and its forked tongue slightly coming out of its mouth.” Eventually, it just walked away.
The ever-prescient John Keel wrote in The Mothman Prophecies (1975): “Some of the descriptions of the [UFO-related] entities impressed me as resembling some kind of reptile rather than human mammals.” (For additional such accounts from the 1970s, see the excerpt from Loren Coleman’s work here.)
It is difficult to tell if some similar early reports represent the Reptilians of UFO lore or what the C’s call window-fallers. For example, an article from the National Cryptid Society includes reports of a “lizard man” seen in Honey Grove, Texas, in 1984 and the “Lizard Man of Scape Ore Swamp” (South Carolina), first spotted in 1988 (discussed briefly in volume 1). The former was described as 7 feet tall and “Gray in color. Arms halfway to the concrete. Tail in the road. He walked right under a street light. There was no mistaking what he was.” According to Denver Michaels, the area around Honey Grove saw a number of UFO and Bigfoot reports around the same time period.
It is unclear when typical Reptilians first appeared in abduction experiences. While published accounts only began appearing in the early 1990s, presumably these experiences occurred at least as early as the mid to late 1980s. For example, John Grace includes a letter sent to his Nevada Aerial Research group on August 1, 1989, from an abductee named Kris Bjork, who had a flying boomerang UFO sighting in 1982. She shares that as a teen she was “obsessed with drawing underground bases” and at 15 would lie on the table in her basement “and fantasize [about] a big reptilian human laying its webby hands on my face.” Anna Jamerson saw one in a 1990 abduction (uncovered via hypnosis in 1992, and published in her 1996 book with Beth Collings, Connections). Dr. Thomas Bullard writes:
At the 1991 MUFON Symposium, [Linda Moulton] Howe’s presentation included an abduction account that included a lizard being (p. 137), and the following year at the next symposium she presented slides that included various types of aliens, including lizard-types. Also in 1992, at the MIT Abductions Study Conference, John Carpenter, a professional social worker who had worked with many abductees over the previous few years, stated that reptilian types were reported but largely ignored, discounted, or discarded by researchers. He added that “many continue to be reported,” and that reptilians comprised about ten percent of his sample. (email, April 9, 2025)
However, there are some indications of even earlier experiences. In hypnotic regressions conducted by Barbara Bartholic in the early 1990s, Ted Rice, whose case is discussed in volume 1, recalled encounters with Reptilian beings as early as the late 1940s. (Bartholic and Rice were convinced many abduction entities were in actuality Reptilian and that hypnosis could reveal this fact.) As Bullard writes:
One reason for the seeming scarcity of reptilians before the 1990s may be, as John Carpenter mentioned, that investigators and experiencers found them unpleasant. For some people, that was reason enough to push them out of the picture. Then too, they didn’t seem to do much. They mainly hovered in the background while the grays did all the kidnapping, examination, and communication work.
Bullard himself attributes the sudden appearance of Reptilians to three possible factors: the influence of popular entertainment (e.g. V and They Live), “Dark Side fictions” (i.e. 1980s ufology) and investigator/abductee confabulation, writing:
Once the idea of reptiles entered into mind, the question remains how it entered and increased in abductions. For experiencers, maybe a reptile offered a better image of clearer understanding of what they saw, or maybe the idea gave the imagination a new image to work with. […] Whether reptilians exist outside the mind of the abductee is a question we cannot answer […]
In 1993, John Carpenter summarized what he had gleaned from the abduction accounts he was familiar with at the time:
Typically, these reptilian creatures are reported to be about six to seven feet tall, upright, with lizardlike scales, greenish to brownish in color with clawlike, four-fingered webbed hands.... Their faces are said to be a cross between a human and a snake, with a central ridge coming down from the top of the head to the snout. Adding to their serpentlike appearance are their eyes which have vertical slits in their pupils and golden irises. Perhaps the most frightening and most controversial part of these stories are claims that the creatures occasionally are reported to have sex with abductees.
Six of the eight women covered in Karla Turner’s Taken (1994) had experiences with “the cat-eyed or reptoid type.” Lisa, for instance, “dreamed” she was given a “heavenly audience,” followed by a physical exam:
“I saw myself on a table in a spaceship and alien beings standing at the end of my feet, telling me or each other that I was an excellent breeder,” she recalled. “A reptile-looking creature was getting on top of me, I guess to rape me.”
Before his untimely death in 2004, psychiatrist John Mack was working on a paper with Barbara Lamb on Reptilians. Abduction researcher David Jacobs was initially skeptical of ther existence, as he writes in Walking Among Us (2015): “But consistent and continuing reports of them by abductees convinced me otherwise.” In his own cases, he has “found no evidence of their doing anything differently than the workers onboard a UFO [i.e. Grays and hybrids],” and he speculates that “Insectalins may have made reptalins the first workers in the program.”
Jacobs writes that “reptalins” are “reported only infrequently” and abductee descriptions vary: “Some are portrayed as having scaly skin, some as having lizard- or snake-like faces.” Some describe them as “more mentally aggressive.” Whereas they are encountered during such experiences, “they do not physically abduct people as do grays and other hybrids.” Bullard describes them as “invariably cold and hostile.” They “have slitlike eye pupils, patterned skin, a cranial ridge, and robust body build.” In a smaller study on a limited sample of respondents (The Sympathetic Ear, 1995), Bullard found that only one described the beings in detail: “They have neither the large cranium nor pointed chin of gray humanoids, but the head includes a crest running front to back on the skull. The reptiles have greenish, scaly skin and snakelike eyes with vertical pupils. Other facial features seem largely nondescript. About 90% of the reptiles have four clawed fingers and brown webbing, though another investigator speaks of 4-5 digits for this type.”
Government insiders have also asserted the reality of a Reptilian alien species. As Moira McGhee writes in The Alien Gene, one of the species Bob Dean claimed awareness of (via the top secret NATO “Assessment” he claimed involvement in) “was what we refer to as ‘Reptilian’; still basically humanoid, but up to six feet tall with scaly type skin and vertical pupils in their eyes.” Similarly, British researcher and former police officer Tony Dodd believed “a more malevolent Reptilian type had formed a liaison with some ‘authorities’ and were trying to locate, capture, or eliminate those with Visitor connections.” (See what the C’s said about Marcia Moore in volume 1.) Dodd’s NATO/SAS crash-retrieval source told him his team saw dead aliens “of more than one type”: “The most terrifying was large and reptilian, looking like a seven-foot-tall lizard only with arms and legs.”
In his book, Alien Investigator, Dodd also claimed that a diplomatic source showed his research partner several remarkable photographs, one of which depicted an alien “with a reptilian head and a powerful body […] Its height was estimated at over seven feet.”
The ambassador said this was an aggressive type of alien, but highly intelligent and dangerous. The word my friend used to describe it was ‘fearsome’. […] One American expert claims he saw them at Area 51 […] At a later contact, the diplomat told us about known underground bases in remote desert areas of the USA where these reptiles live, aware that the US authorities are watching them. A surveillance team was attacked by them in the spring of 1998, and twenty soldiers were killed or wounded […]
Richard Dolan describes a similar revelation in UFOs for the 21st Century Mind (2014):
[…] one of my colleagues, a seasoned UFO investigator, told me of an interview this person conducted with a senior retired U.S. Defense official. The official discussed his professional knowledge of three major types of extraterrestrials living on Earth. According to him, all three types (the Grays, the Nordic-Humans, and the Reptoids) were being actively monitored by the black budget military.
In his 2010 book, Selected by Extraterrestrials, former TRW aerospace engineer William Mills Tompkins claimed to have been made aware of Reptilian aliens as early as the 1950s and 1960s, which he characterized as “extremely violent,” dangerous and “a race of killers.” For example, he claimed that “Jim Cooper, propulsion rep at White Sands, told me that there are Reptilians managing Grays in underground facilities in several Western states, and that the Navy is monitoring them.”
Jason Sands, whose job in the Air Force during the 1990s was to surveil special access programs in order to identify possible security breaches in their communications, overheard various alien-related conversations from scientists working in national labs. He told Joe Rogan that one of the alien types mentioned on these missions was Reptilians, “but every time that they were mentioned, it was really quickly hushed up by whoever else was on the other end of the line. ‘Shut up, don’t say that,’ is what they were doing. […] They don’t want to talk about the Reptilian presence at all. They would talk about the Tall Whites and the Grays in the lab […] but these Reptilians, it was like nobody wanted to talk about it.”
On Chris Ramsay’s Area 52 podcast, Jesse Michels shared an anecdote told to him by two close friends, professional big-wave surfers Garret and Nicole McNamara. The two had lunch with a friend in Las Vegas who brought along another friend – a longtime aerospace worker who had worked at Area 51. This man looked “sort of traumatized,” so they jokingly asked him if he had seen any aliens: “And he kind of goes white in the face. Apparently he had been taken down […] underground […] and seen a reptilian being in custody […] chained up, and the thing seemed to speak to him telepathically, and he freaked out and ran and has been, I think, somewhat traumatized ever since.” (According to the C’s, reports about Reptilians and Grays being present in underground bases are true [1995-3-18].)
Most recently, during a briefing to members of the congressional Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets put on by the UAP Disclosure Fund, Representative Eric Burlison asked Dr. Eric Davis about any information he might have on the species who pilot UAP craft. Davis had just shared what he knew about the reality of government and contractor crash-retrieval and reverse-engineering programs – information which informed David Grusch’s investigation into those programs for the UAP Task Force. Davis responded:
There are typically the multiple species people are familiar with: the Grays, the Nordics. People have talked about Reptilians and insectoids – not that they’re reptilian or insectoid, it’s that they resemble, to the percipient, a reptile or an insect “humanoid.” Becuase they have a head and four limbs and a torso.
Origin and Orientation
The Cassiopaeans adopt and expand upon the ideas about the Reptilians included in Marciniak’s Bringers of the Dawn. In an early session, they described them as coming from a planet called “Qaddeera” in the Zeta Reticuli system (1994-9-30) and inhabiting six planets in the “Orion region in 4th density.” (Qadira is also female Arabic name meaning “powerful” or “capable.”) There are allegedly 300,000 of them “operating on the planet” at this time (1995-10-14).
November 4, 1994
Q: (L) I heard one theory that the Lizzies [Marciniak’s Pleiadians’ tongue-in-cheek name for the Reptilians] originally evolved on planet Earth. Is this true?
A: No. Neither did you. […]
October 18, 1994
Q: (L) Who created the Lizzies?
A: Ormethion.
Q: (L) And who is this individual?
A: Thought center [i.e. 6th-density].
October 20, 1994
Q: Is Ormethion who the Lizzies worship?
A: Close.
Q: Who do they worship? What do they call their god?
A: Physical universe.
Q: The physical universe is their god?
A: Yes. [See the note further below on Virgil Armstrong.]
November 7, 1994
Q: (L) What are the implications of the fact that the Lizzies worship the physical universe?
A: Self-service.
Q: (L) What do they see in the physical universe that they feel is superior to the spiritual universe?
A: All who serve self yearn for physicality.
October 22, 1994 (direct channeling)
A: […] the Lizards have chosen to firmly lock themselves into service to self. […] they must continually draw large amounts of negative energy from those at the 3rd level, 2nd level, and so on […] This also explains why their race is dying, because they have not been able to learn […] how to remove themselves from this particular form of expression to that of service to others. And, since they have such […] a long period of time remained at this level and […] become firmly entrenched in it and […] increased themselves in it, this is why they are dying and desperately trying to take as much energy from you as possible and also to recreate their race metabolically. […] Their failing is that they see only what they want to see.
In 1988’s Armstrong Report, Virgil Armstrong wrote:
This aberrant civilization realizes it is on a path of self-destruction and is about to become extinct. Therefore it must find some recourse; a source which can buy them time to rectify this frightening situation. […] they do not […] worship a deity per se; no God, no Christ, no great angel. Instead, they worship “divine materialism”, which obviously is a God of substance and actualization.
November 12, 1994
Q: (L) Are the Lizzies what we would consider to be evil?
A: Yes.
November 26, 1994
A: The “Lizzies” are the 4th-level representatives of the forces of the darkness, not the 6th level, and you [i.e. humans] are 3rd-level representatives. […]
Q: (L) And they [6D Orion] are the driving force that controls the Lizzies?
A: Close.
December 31, 1994
A: Wolfen reflects Lizzie reality.
Whitley Strieber’s 1978 novel Wolfen is a gritty, urban horror-mystery novel about two detectives investigating a series of brutal murders that defy human explanation. The perpetrators, the “wolfen,” are revealed to be an ancient, otherworldly, intelligent and predatory species living hidden among humanity. Brooding, introspective and psychological, the novel explores questions about nature, survival and humanity’s place in the food chain.
January 21, 1995
Q: (L) What is the greatest weakness of the Lizzies or the Grays in 4D?
A: STS.
February 25, 1995
Q: (BP) What is the Lizards’ Achilles’ heel?
A: STS. As in “wishful thinking” which blocks knowledge. […]
Q: (GB) Do the Lizzies have souls?
A: Yes.
December 23, 1994
Q: (L) Are there 3rd-level Lizzies?
A: All these are 4th who sometimes travel to 3rd. Rules are totally different in 4th density.
January 7, 1995
A: The Lizards have a form of mathematics you would not even begin to understand.
February 25, 1995
A: Lizards are always present on level 4.
November 23, 1996
A: Grays and Lizards are 4th density. They can “visit” 3rd density, but they must keep returning to 4th in order to “regenerate.”
Yvonne Smith’s subject, Mary, told her that the aliens “rotate” as needed out of “their own dimension” and into ours, “in which they are barely hanging on.” Paul Eno, describing the “paranormal parasites” which are the subject of his book Dancing Past the Graveyard, writes: “While parasites can slip between worlds, their mobility while in ours often seems strictly limited.” While there are accounts of hybrids “living among us,” reports of NHI species like Grays, Reptilians and Mantids interacting in our world seem limited to discrete encounters and special locations (e.g. underground bases). As far as we know, there are no accounts of such beings living and traveling in mundane locations for extended periods of time.
September 9, 1995 (direct channeling)
A: Are the Reptilian beings, or Lizard beings, STO? […] some can cross over into STO. However, their natural environment is STS, as they have chosen. But, whether or not any of the cybergenetic Gray beings […] and/or the Lizard beings cross over into STO, […] they are independent [phenomena].
Q: (L) I understand. OK, would you say there is any percentage, any fairly measurable percentage of Lizard beings that are STO?
A: It is […] extremely small. Hardly worth mentioning.
October 4, 1997
Q: Marciniak also says that there are benevolent Lizzies. You once said that the incidence of benevolent Lizzies was so rare as to be not worth mentioning. Is it true that there are benevolent Lizzies as she says?
A: There are benevolences evident even in the darkest circles.
July 31, 1999
Q: Are there 36 million Lizards on their way here [as a questioner wanted to know]?
A: The Lizard beings occupy 4th density.
Q: Are you saying that because they occupy 4th density, they don’t have to come here because they are here?
A: Close.
Appearance
According to the Cs there are three variations of Reptilians (1997-8-9). The following sessions either describe common features, or one of those variations.
November 4, 1994
Q: (L) And could you tell us what the Lizzies look like?
A: Upright alligators with some humanoid features in face.
In her interview with Ted Rice, “Fringe” comments on the details in Rice’s account about Reptilian anatomy that someone would not know about unless they have experienced it, i.e. a particular male body part, which “resembles a male dog.” As noted in volume 1, this detail that matches another case of reptoid rape covered by Laura Knight-Jadczyk in the Wave Series, as well as the actual anatomy of alligators.
Q: (L) Do the Lizzies have more than one heart?
A: No.
Q: (L) Do they have more than one brain?
A: No.
November 6, 1994
Q: (L) You said the other night that the Lizzies were like upright alligators only with somewhat humanoid features to their faces. Is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Do they have tails?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) How tall are they?
A: Six to eight feet tall.
Q: (L) Do they wear clothing?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) I know this is a silly question, but does their clothing have an opening for the tail?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Do they defecate?
A: No. They are 4th level.
Q: (L) So, when you are 4th level you neither eat nor defecate in the regular way?
A: Correct.
We covered alien nutrition in volume 1. Briefly, Grays transfer negative emotional energy to Reptilians, which they consume in 4D. Both require physical nourishment (e.g. blood and/or flesh) only while “visiting” our level of reality.
Kathleen Marden and Denise Stoner share the case of Audrey and Debbie Hewins in The Alien Abduction Files (2013). As children, they had typical experiences with Grays, but as they became young women, beings resembling “humanoid reptiles” began emerging at night from their bedroom closet. Audrey described one of these beings as “more than 6 feet tall and wearing a cape with a silken thread that had a metallic appearance.” (The Wyoming hunter mentioned above described the Reptilian he encountered in the woods as wearing a vest and “short metallic looking briefs.”) Audrey told the authors:
They are just mean. They have no sympathy…no feelings at all. They just come in and do whatever they want. Their vicious attacks are not enjoyable. I feel their energy and it’s almost like they are sucking out my soul…like they’re sucking the energy from you. It’s a creepy feeling.
“One time, both sisters felt they had been taken to an underground location and forced to engage in sexual relations with a very tall, broad Reptilian.” Marden conducted a survey with abductees and found that almost 40% had reported contact with Reptilians: “Almost without exception, reports of this kind are negative.”
In reference to physical nourishment, Ryan Bledsoe, son of modern-day contactee Chris Bledsoe, shared an interesting anecdote. Tom DeLonge’s To The Stars (TTS) were apparently in talks with Bledsoe about bringing his experiences to the big screen. Bledsoe, however, rejected their offer, as TTS wanted to include “Reptilians that eat people” in the narrative. Chris Bledsoe himself said:
Animal mutilation, people missing in state parks, all that – they’re slowly but surely tying it in to this “UFO/alien coming to get people, eating us and eating our cows.” That’s what you’re probably going to hear at some point, if they get the nerve to do it. […] Nobody wants to hear, “there’s no such thing as God, only aliens that eat people, and eat little girls.” I’ve heard this in briefings, which was sick – people trying to come up with this thing to tell to the public. […] That’s what I heard, that it was going to be slanted evil or dark, so we wouldn’t mess with it. And I’ve took the high road and said, “No thank you. I’m not selling my soul to no one. I’m going to tell it the way I experienced it.”
The irony is that despite seemingly being told the truth in these “briefings,” Bledsoe believes it to be a false narrative.
Q: (L) Do the Lizzies have the ability to change their shape or appearance?
A: Temporarily.
January 11, 1995
Q: (Barry) Are Lizards shapeshifters?
A: All on 4th level of density have that ability.
December 19, 1998
Q: Why do they [Reptilians] look like lizards?
A: They do not.
Q: Well, why do we call them Lizard beings? I mean, you named them that?
A: We label in accordance with your familiarity. If we had called them “Drachomonoids,” what would be your point of reference?? [Presumably a portmanteau of draco/hominoid. Drakon is Greek for serpent or dragon (draco in Latin).]
Q: What do they really look like?
A: You can figure as needed.
Q: You said they resemble upright alligators with humanoid features, six to eight feet tall...
A: Yes.
Q: So, why do they look like that?
A: Biology.
Q: Does biology exist at 4th density?
A: Yes.
Q: Yet, it’s a variable physical density, right?
A: Yes, but what is your assumption here?
Q: I don’t know what my assumption is. I guess that I am assuming that if it is a variable state, they could have a different biology very easily. Isn’t that the case?
A: No.
Q: Can they appear as something else? Change their physicality?
A: Temporarily.
April 26, 2025
Q: (Approaching Infinity) In the past you have said, “There is variability of physicality on 4th density, but not lack of physicality.” But later on, when Laura asked if in 4D, “There is no materiality unless you will it to be so,” you answered, “Close.” Does variable physicality for 4D beings include the option of having no physicality at all?
A: In some advanced beings. Just as some advanced beings in 3D can manifest unusual abilities. [This implies that less advanced 4D beings are more physical, while more advanced beings have more control over their physicality, with some able to experience pure nonphysicality – similar to how some advanced humans may manifest traits closer to 4D.]
Q: (Approaching Infinity) Is it different for STS and STO?
A: Not really.
Volume 1 covers the Reptilians’ ability to shapeshift and “project” thought-forms, which can take the form of creatures (e.g. MIB and Grays) or craft (e.g. flying black boomerangs), into our reality. Accounts of shapeshifting Reptilians are fairly common. For example, Audrey Hewins, mentioned above, “felt she’d been raped in her bedroom by a good-looking man that suddenly turned into a green lizard-like reptile.” Accounts such as this explain how David Icke could reach his conclusions about various world leaders being crypto-Reptilians. However, according to the C’s, this is a 4D ability, and Reptilians can only maintain form in our 3D world for brief amounts of time.
July 15, 2000
Q: When I saw [under hypnosis] the werewolf-type being sitting at some kind of console that controlled people, I had the impression that these people who were doing these things to me were robot-type beings, that they were not human, and that they were controlled by this werewolf-type being. Was that also correct?
A: Close.
Q: Who was this werewolf? I was expecting to see a Lizard, or anything but a werewolf. He had eyes like lasers.
A: Screen mask.
Q: What was behind the screen?
A: You know.
Q: Lizards?
A: Yes.
Q: Why would they screen themselves as a werewolf?
A: Cloak.
September 14, 2002
Q: (Atreides) Some people have experiences with reptoids and others have experiences with Mantid beings and other different types of aliens. Is there a particular reason why they choose such a screen? […]
A: Reptoids and Mantids are not screens.
Q: (Atreides) So those are real beings who are doing that?
A: Yes.
They can also appear in dreams, seen or interpreted as “dragons” or “dinosaurs”:
November 24, 1994
Q: (L) Back in 1981 and 1982, my daughter A. frequently saw something outside her window that she described as an alligator, and she would wake up screaming and we would get up and, on one occasion, we saw what seemed to be a figure standing in a corner by the closet. The whole series of events ended up with my having a dream in which I confronted a dragon…
A: Lizard. […]
Q: (L) When I had the dream about doing battle with the dragon, was that just a dream, an astral event, or an actual interaction with the Lizzies?
A: All three.
March 7, 2009
Q: (Joe) [A.] was interested in asking a question about her niece. Her niece is the one who said that she was in the tower on 9/11. Is this a case of her being reincarnated…?
A: Yes.
Q: (Joe) And she’s been talking about seeing dinosaurs at night. So is she having interactions with 4D-STS lizard types?
A: Yes.
According to Ted Rice, some children he knew claimed to have seen “Barney the Dinosaur” in their own alien encounters. (Recall from volume 1 the various forms reported by children, e.g. clowns, Disney characters and talking animals.)
To be continued in Reptilians – Part 2
I'll have to check out "Wolfen", thanks.
<Reptilian aliens as early as the 1950s and 1960s, which he characterized as “extremely violent,” dangerous and “a race of killers.” ...
"They don’t want to talk about the Reptilian presence at all. They would talk about the Tall Whites and the Grays in the lab […] but these Reptilians, it was like nobody wanted to talk about it.”>
I wonder, is this because lizzies give off such a strong feeling of fear to 3D sts 'naturally' because they are the main (or only?) 4D sts race to rape and eat humans?
Robert Llimós' aliens seem to be some kind of a hybrid race, probably merely a partial Lizard genetic mix, like pigs and humans. If you look at the bio-mechanical design of this sauroid,
https://boneclones.com/images/store-product/product-2879-main-original-1688061226.jpg
the long neck is heavy and must have motor control muscle support, so at the root the neck must be thicker so the muscles can bend and move that heavy neck and head safely, so the creature does not get hurt, while moving its head during running, hiding and fighting. Fascinating how Llimós actually paints the seemingly correct anatomy for this weird, remotely-Lizard related race. "Sectoid-Drone-Lizzie-Mix-Experiment"?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/360204534/figure/fig1/AS:11431281213156377@1702969146236/Ostrich-and-its-leg-structure-a-ostrich-running-b-bone-and-muscle-structure-c.tif
Like the Tall Whites are said by Charles Hall to have a weird (A) Lizard-clawed, (B) horse faced and sounding like a horse, (C) thin bony-bodied mantoid genetic design, but all made in the flesh. As if a hard insect carapaced mantoid bulk was made/converted into an extremely thin and weak human flesh body. So as insects like to enjoy sunshine and heat, Tall Whites also allegedly love extreme desert ditch heat on Earth, that would kill a human in minutes. They like to let their thin children play there as that is much closer to "nice weather" on their planet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxXo82n1Vhw
Tall Whites descriptions in Charles Halls books:
https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B00M0D32DC?ccs_id=e4440d9c-8f02-4d7b-9ec3-4bc6d4da08c0
The "black" eyes of Llimós' aliens could be because it is covered only by protective black film? Or were Llimós long necked aliens some kind of drones? Sectoids also are said to only look like they have "black eyes", because it is covered by an artifical "sunglasses" thick film, otherwise, when this protective black film is removed, the Sectoid Lizzie drones have their eyes as normal: the humanoid-owl-animal mix eyeballs, merely unique proportions of eyeball anatomy.
All I could think of about Llimós' aliens is they aren't like Lizzie Alpha Males at all, - they would have a hard time to protect their necks or "Nrack" - if they are a real race, they aren't made to fight. I had difficulties imagining a muscular "Tyrannosaurus Rex" version of Llimós' aliens as their alpha male fighters.
Thus the linked Twitter video
https://x.com/davidicke/status/1903811125734441406
feels much closer to the truth, regards full bloodied / purebred lizard races.
Fascinating! But only from the life-design viewpoint.